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Weber State Sacks

Post by BlueHenBill » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:19 pm

While watching the Weber State game last week, the announcers talked at length about how Weber St. had only 15 sacks in 2018, made it a point of emphasis during the off-season, employed hand drills for their DL (which the announcers had watched & raved about), and had 50+ sacks so far in 2019. Maybe UD should send the DL coach to Weber St. before Spring Ball to see how Weber St. drills their DL in the use of their hands to rush the QB.

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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by Red Rooney » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:46 pm

It starts with not lining up 2 yards off the ball.

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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by tenn hen » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:40 am

yep-excellent point .No one but us gives that space away like UD. It might be nice to see stunts utilized rather than the sos by our DL.
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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by ColoradoHen » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:10 pm

From watching the playoff games, especially the past couple years, the teams making deep runs all are pretty balanced teams on both the offensive and defensive sides, play fast pressure defense with a lot of man coverage (very little soft zone coverage) with quick & strong who continually pressure the opposing QB. They also have very good OLs supporting strong run games and TOP advantage as well as ability to protect their QB in the pass game. They also tend to have QBs who can both pass accurately and able to run effectively as part of the game plan (not just running for their lives). No big revelation that this has been winning formulas for NDSU and JMU as well as other winning FCS programs. Unfortunately, we have been bad the past several years because we have either not recruited to meet that standard, or not coached those recruited players (we’ve definitely had some good players) up to develop good teams. I’m hoping the past couple of recruiting classes have what’s required to turn the corner beginning in spring ball. That’s been my hope every year for the past several years. If I could have the coaching staff cite one New Years resolution for 2020 it would be to incorporate faster, more imaginative and aggressive schemes on both sides of the ball. If they play the same old tired passive schemes, regardless of the players the results will undoubtedly be the same as the recent past. Regardless of recent comments on other threads about Tubby’s FCS playoff success (or lack of), at least his teams were always fun and exciting to watch. Here’s hoping the Blue Hens team “cup is at least half-full” for the 2020 season and can truly show some positive team progress for all of us to start feeling proud of again.

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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by 72 Hen » Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:50 am

BlueHenBill wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:19 pm
While watching the Weber State game last week, the announcers talked at length about how Weber St. had only 15 sacks in 2018, made it a point of emphasis during the off-season, employed hand drills for their DL (which the announcers had watched & raved about), and had 50+ sacks so far in 2019. Maybe UD should send the DL coach to Weber St. before Spring Ball to see how Weber St. drills their DL in the use of their hands to rush the QB.
I have been saying this since the 2018 season. I don't understand the way we play defense. I would like a DC who teaches defense for today's game. Last year Coach Rocco promised us a pressure defense. We never saw it,,,
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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by Henny » Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:21 am

To think that coach Rocco is going to change his defensive philosophy drastically is unrealistic. He is firmly in the camp of read and react, 3-4 base, three man rush with occasional token pressure defense. It actually worked against Pitt and their freshmen QB since it's so unusual in 2019 college football.

Call it antiquated and out of date but that's what he knows and is comfortable with. It's not fun to watch and it certainly didn't work this year.

Unfortunately, expect it to continue next year.


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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by Chicken of War » Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:04 pm

Red Rooney wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:46 pm
It starts with not lining up 2 yards off the ball.
I'm sure someone mentioned throughout the year but I thought I was the only one that noticed. Delaware lines up farther away from the ball than any team I've ever seen at any level. They're a yard to a yard and a half away at times. Even if someone could explain to me in a reasonable way why that's beneficial, I would still be against it. The disadvantages far outweigh any perceived benefit.
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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by Maddog@76 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:34 pm

For sure, the defensive side of the line is of the utmost need of “tweaking”- whether it be coaching up/teaching,
personnel, new schemes, or new defensive coordinator.
Hopefully this issue will be resolved before the trip to Harrisonburg. Go Blue Hens! Wayne Hanby

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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by GhostOfThePeeWall » Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:00 pm

Maybe Santa brings us a monster DE pass rush transfer....

It seems like a lot of times the d line is instructed not to rush the qb, but rather hold their lanes so as to not allow any kind of scramble? It may be a scheme issue as opposed to a talent issue. Very passive football.

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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by 77HEN » Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:26 pm

GhostOfThePeeWall wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:00 pm
Maybe Santa brings us a monster DE pass rush transfer....

It seems like a lot of times the d line is instructed not to rush the qb, but rather hold their lanes so as to not allow any kind of scramble? It may be a scheme issue as opposed to a talent issue. Very passive football.
That's why the DC won't be changed. He's doing what Coach Rocco wants.

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Re: Weber State Sacks

Post by Section J » Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:36 pm

Henny wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:21 am
To think that coach Rocco is going to change his defensive philosophy drastically is unrealistic. He is firmly in the camp of read and react, 3-4 base, three man rush with occasional token pressure defense. It actually worked against Pitt and their freshmen QB since it's so unusual in 2019 college football.

Call it antiquated and out of date but that's what he knows and is comfortable with. It's not fun to watch and it certainly didn't work this year.

Unfortunately, expect it to continue next year.


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