Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

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Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by Henny » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:10 am

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Post by Jaxhen » Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:39 pm

Tulane and Tulsa don’t seem like a good fit. Seems like Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Old Dominion, or Coastal Carolina would be a better fit for the new American Conference.

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Post by Henny » Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:26 pm

Makes sense Jax. My feeling is if UD was to be in that second level, it would be an all Eastern conference.

If the economic impact of the virus goes long, It could really kill some programs in the Colonial and also may expedite some movement in D1.

UD is probably the most prepared of the current peers to take a financial hit that some are expecting.
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Post by dovetail » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:39 am

"If the economic impact of the virus goes long, It could really kill some programs in the Colonial and also may expedite some movement in D1"

The only way we would move given this schools history is to wait until everyone else has done it. We stopped freshman football when there were no other schools doing it and we went to full athletic scholarships only when it became painfully obvious that GIA wasn't getting it done.

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Post by jd of de » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:02 am

While I agree the P5's have clearly been moving to becoming their own entity, the loss of both 2020 March Madness and 2020 College Football Playoff revenue will surely put the timeline in question. Once rolling in money, the P5's will be singing a different tune when this seasons football season is severely altered or eliminated.

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Post by darthdave » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:49 am

ODU future looking grim per study.

Joining CUSA has cost the school 2 million annualy.

Study made these conclusions:

-ODU can’t continue to support 17 NCAA sports (sailing is not one of them) with its current or future budget. Sixteen NCAA sports are required to remain a Football Bowl Subdivision program.
-Football and basketball, the Monarchs’ top revenue-generating sports, can’t be adversely affected by budget cuts if they plan to be competitive.
-“Conference membership decisions need to be made” to reduce travel expenses and missed class time while generating more fan interest in the form of ticket sales.
-A male sport should be eliminated instead of watering down all of them.

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Post by DCHen97 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:06 pm

This is always a fun exercise but like we mentioned before, UD partnering with JMU, UConn, UMass should be a given in a new American. I think academic parity still plays into any move. Thus, SDSU and Boise St to the Pac-12, IMO, isn't realistic. BYU really is the only fit.

Oh and why would Buffalo stay in the MAC in this massive changing landscape? Add them to wherever UD ends up

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Post by jd of de » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:40 pm

DCHen97 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:06 pm
This is always a fun exercise but like we mentioned before, UD partnering with JMU, UConn, UMass should be a given in a new American. I think academic parity still plays into any move. Thus, SDSU and Boise St to the Pac-12, IMO, isn't realistic. BYU really is the only fit.

Oh and why would Buffalo stay in the MAC in this massive changing landscape? Add them to wherever UD ends up
Many attach us to JMU first; academically we match with Buffalo better than JMU.

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Post by finpxz1 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:56 pm

DCHen97 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:06 pm
This is always a fun exercise but like we mentioned before, UD partnering with JMU, UConn, UMass should be a given in a new American. I think academic parity still plays into any move. Thus, SDSU and Boise St to the Pac-12, IMO, isn't realistic. BYU really is the only fit.

Oh and why would Buffalo stay in the MAC in this massive changing landscape? Add them to wherever UD ends up
Would love to see an alignment with UMass, UConn, and JMU. Throw in Temple, ODU, Nova, Marshall and Army and/or Navy, and that would make for really fun Fall Saturday's in Newark.

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Post by jd of de » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:46 am

UConn's recent commitment to the Big East eliminates any chance Delaware and UConn will be conference mates again.

And UMass' commitment to the A10 eliminate any chance Delaware and UMass will be conference mates unless Delaware too sends football the FBS Independent route as well while joining the A10 for all other sports.

Basketball money won out for both UConn and UMass.

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Post by DCHen97 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:54 am

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UConn's recent commitment to the Big East eliminates any chance Delaware and UConn will be conference mates again.

And UMass' commitment to the A10 eliminate any chance Delaware and UMass will be conference mates unless Delaware too sends football the FBS Independent route as well while joining the A10 for all other sports.

Basketball money won out for both UConn and UMass.
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JD, you foresee both of them dropping football entirely? For UMass, that has to be on the table since sustaining that program financially as an Independent isn't going to work.

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Post by jd of de » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:32 am

DCHen97 wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:54 am
jd of de wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:46 am
UConn's recent commitment to the Big East eliminates any chance Delaware and UConn will be conference mates again.

And UMass' commitment to the A10 eliminate any chance Delaware and UMass will be conference mates unless Delaware too sends football the FBS Independent route as well while joining the A10 for all other sports.

Basketball money won out for both UConn and UMass.
JD, you foresee both of them dropping football entirely? For UMass, that has to be on the table since sustaining that program financially as an Independent isn't going to work.
I don't see either dropping football in the near-term, but if either does it would be UMass. There are so many different ways this can play out IMO. I don't see either going back to FCS for sake of their egos and for the fact you can probably only save $2m or so by doing that.

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Post by 93BlueHen » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:24 am

No way App State and Georgia Southern end up in different conferences. They're attached at the hip and are bitter rivals.

It would be a blast if we ended up in a conference with both of them though!

Alas, as somebody mentioned earlier though, it sounds a bit snobbish, but they're not really our academic peers.

Lastly, how cool could it be to have a chance to play Navy regularly with an equal number of schollies?
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Post by DCHen97 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:51 am

Shouldn't any re-org to a new Group of 5 cut the number of scholarships to somewhere between current FCS and FBS limits? Then you'd have current G5 schools saving on funds, FCS moving up not having to make as much of an additional investment and everyone gets a little breather from Title IX contraints.

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Post by BlueHenBill » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:13 pm

jd of de wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:46 am
UConn's recent commitment to the Big East eliminates any chance Delaware and UConn will be conference mates again.

And UMass' commitment to the A10 eliminate any chance Delaware and UMass will be conference mates unless Delaware too sends football the FBS Independent route as well while joining the A10 for all other sports.

Basketball money won out for both UConn and UMass.
Why could't a new realignment be similar to the CAA where some schools are FB only members and others are members for all sports? That would allow for example UConn to stay in the BE and UMAss in the A10 for all sports other than FB. If determined necessary, desirable, & possible, UD might alos have the option to move only FB into one conferrnece with the other sports in another conference.

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