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Re: UD Budget

Post by Caribbean Hen » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:26 am

“My son decided to take a pass and work a full time job instead “

It’s not easy to buck the corrupt system, but I predict this kid will be much better off

More and more bold young people will start seeing the light as well
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Re: UD Budget

Post by DCHen97 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 am

Does anyone happen to know when returning students had to make the decision to attend (virtually) or take the year off? And by opting out, would you have to re-apply to the University to come back next semester or next Fall? It sounds like the writer's son at 'Nova had that option to opt out for the year.

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Re: UD Budget

Post by Gannonfan » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:34 am

DCHen97 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 am
Does anyone happen to know when returning students had to make the decision to attend (virtually) or take the year off? And by opting out, would you have to re-apply to the University to come back next semester or next Fall? It sounds like the writer's son at 'Nova had that option to opt out for the year.
Don't know the specifics with UD, and it varies from school to school. Most schools let incoming first years take a gap year before starting college, where it gets more dicey is taking a gap year once you've matriculated - that's where it really varies from school to school.
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Re: UD Budget

Post by BlueHenBill » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:03 pm

UDJoe wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:24 am
Additional information about UD's deficit:

https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/a ... t=headline
Something isn't right with the UD numbers in the Newark Post Article. Per UD's own website official enrollment #'s for Fall 2020 vs. Fall 2019, Total UD Enrollemt is down only 0.82% (23,808-23,613= -195) and Undergraduate Enrollment (which has by far the largest decrease per official UD #'s, with the combined other categories UP overall) is down only 2.34% (18,138-17,710= -425). Of course when you add a projected significant enrollment increase for Fall 2020 over Fall 2019 that didn't happen due to the covid-19, you can make your enrollment "loss" look even larger. :roll: UD then projects a future loss of the Freshmen over the next three years. Assuming that things are relatively normal by Fall 2021, UD could easily make that up by enrolling more FR (costs to rent additional student housing for underclassmen would probably rise but UD had planned to do that for Fall 2020) and transfer students (little on campus housing required) each of the next 3-4 years. Then UD adds as a $22 M "loss" the normal increase in tuition that UD did not impose this semester or year. It seems like UD bugets ahead expecting increased enrolment and higher tuition rates, instead of just budgeting based on the prior year(s) plus projected normal inflation. Even acceping all of the "losses" reported in that article, the identified "losses" total only $130 M vs a projected loss of $250 M. :?
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Re: UD Budget

Post by DCHen97 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:40 pm

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Does anyone happen to know when returning students had to make the decision to attend (virtually) or take the year off? And by opting out, would you have to re-apply to the University to come back next semester or next Fall? It sounds like the writer's son at 'Nova had that option to opt out for the year.
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Don't know the specifics with UD, and it varies from school to school. Most schools let incoming first years take a gap year before starting college, where it gets more dicey is taking a gap year once you've matriculated - that's where it really varies from school to school.
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Thanks GF. If I had the option to take some electives virtually at my local community college at much less $, knowing they would transfer into UD, I'd be doing that in a heartbeat.

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Re: UD Budget

Post by Gannonfan » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:30 pm

DCHen97 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:40 pm
Gannonfan wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:34 am
DCHen97 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 am
Does anyone happen to know when returning students had to make the decision to attend (virtually) or take the year off? And by opting out, would you have to re-apply to the University to come back next semester or next Fall? It sounds like the writer's son at 'Nova had that option to opt out for the year.
Don't know the specifics with UD, and it varies from school to school. Most schools let incoming first years take a gap year before starting college, where it gets more dicey is taking a gap year once you've matriculated - that's where it really varies from school to school.
Thanks GF. If I had the option to take some electives virtually at my local community college at much less $, knowing they would transfer into UD, I'd be doing that in a heartbeat.
Yup - I think that's certainly why you saw something like an 8% drop in first year enrollment year on year nationwide - UD was a little worse than the national average. If you weren't going to have a campus component then why would you ever pay so much more for all-virtual than what a community college would give you for a far lower cost? And most of those early courses do tend to transfer in most cases. Most everyone went to heavy on the virtual classes, but I think UD's in the minority in terms of not having a good chunk of kids at least come back on campus. Lots of schools are mostly virtual while having kids on campus, and obviously a fair number of schools have at least some in-person classes to varying degrees.
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Re: UD Budget

Post by Hengrad07 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:36 pm

Shut down the Town of NewArk! No one except “essential workers” are the only ones to be out in public! 🙏
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Re: UD Budget

Post by Henny » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:58 am

Football weather baby...Lets win a game....By hook or crook..Time to show some heart and guts....Tough game....Love the 26 degrees that's what it is about.... Posted by Joe C 11/9/19

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Re: UD Budget

Post by Info Hound » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:33 am

Henny wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:58 am
Tough decisions ahead

https://www.delawareonline.com/story/sp ... 894020002/
Thanks, Rob. We are headed into uncharted territory here.

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Re: UD Budget

Post by Hengrad07 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:56 pm

How about that... CR refused to speak to KT 🙄
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Re: UD Budget

Post by 00bluehen » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:25 pm

Our old friend, Sam Huge, is apparently getting the heave-ho (err..."resigning") from W&M today amidst fallout over her decision to cut 7 varsity sports.

https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/statu ... 4317811714

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Re: UD Budget

Post by 77HEN » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:14 pm

00bluehen wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:25 pm
Our old friend, Sam Huge, is apparently getting the heave-ho (err..."resigning") from W&M today amidst fallout over her decision to cut 7 varsity sports.

https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/statu ... 4317811714

WIkipedia (last edited today) lists her as the former AD at W&M. I don't get it though. Certainly cuts like this were discussed extensively with the Pres and BOT at W&M? They made her take the fall for the controversial and unpopular decision?

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Re: UD Budget

Post by bluehenbillk » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:52 pm

That’s a shocker - but no doubt she was unpopular in the ‘Burg. On the other hand apparently she’s been one of the more vocal leaders in the CAA about reducing costs/scholarships league wide.
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Re: UD Budget

Post by BlueHenBill » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:09 pm

Apparently, the move to push AD Huge out may be due in part because she proposed to cut one or more sports that are endowed at Wm & Mary (e.g., Men's Golf). Endowment (presumably coaches & schollies) of a sport makes it difficult to argue that you are going to save money by cutting that sport. The endowment of sports is one area where Wm & Mary is reportedly way ahead of UD because Wm & Mary apparenlty has a larger number of wealthy donors who are sports minded. The total dollars in Wm & Mary's endowment is much smaller than UD's but the dollars endowed for athletics is much larger. Maybe UD Athletics should launch a drive among donors (from the largest to the smallest), fans, former players, and current/former coaches/staff to increase as much as poosible the total endowed dollars for UD sports/athletics.

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