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Bluewyn Gold wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:28 am
Henzone wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:11 amThe OL is growing and they need to move the ball by land and by air, whatever works.
Well said. I firmly believe that as goes the OL, so goes the remainder of the '23 season.

It's sure easier for a OL to run block then pass block. Even if your team is built to throw you
adjust and take what's working. That's just common sense.

I suggest that's been the problem in the red zone. We want to run these predetermined plays rather then what's already proven to advance the ball.

Anyhow, Saturday is a good day for a win.
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Henzone wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:22 am
HENJOHN wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:03 am I'm most concerned about the Special Teams. It's glaring to me with simple but fixable items like Center snaps, both A gap and flank rushes and not staying in lanes on returns. I'm hoping it was a point of emphasis on Bye week
Players make mistakes on every team. Coaching questions:

Why we kicked directly in the air to one of the best k/o return men in the country.

Why we punted on 4th down at the end of the UNH game with the best short yardage runner in the CAA available.

Why we immediately downed the ball on that last play instead of taking a few more seconds off the clock.

Why are we last in Punt returns in the CAA?

There's more but as you suggest, it's a glaring problem.
I was certainly not inferring it was all on the players. I know better than that. Not having a dedicated ST Coach is not something I like to see. Those shortcomings are fixable but it starts with Coaching
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Slow starts and special teams are my concern as well.

Entering the season my concern was the O-line and I am pleased with how we have improved there.
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jd of de wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:24 am Slow starts and special teams are my concern as well.

Entering the season my concern was the O-line and I am pleased with how we have improved there.
agree with 1st sentence, but not sure about the 2nd- more games may establish that though it might take a while to validly judge that concern. the PSU game raised questions about our O. Certainly the Dukes shouldn't tell us anything. scheduling Duquesne was uncalled for. Is LIU coming up too? :oops:
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HENJOHN wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:03 am I'm most concerned about the Special Teams.
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jd of de wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:24 am Slow starts and special teams are my concern as well.

Entering the season my concern was the O-line and I am pleased with how we have improved there.
Yes, the OL is playing well and if you compare the way they are playing with what the expectations were from the Gohenners, they are playing great.

The OL improved from 2021 to 2022 with run blocking and if it wasn’t evident using the naked eye just look at the YPC stats.

I’ll guess that Carty just said I’m not bringing in any more OL transfers unless they are significantly better than what we already have and I’ll go with them continuing to improve with cohesiveness and experience
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Currently, all OL except one (TJ Thomas) appear to have eligibility next year according to their bios. That Covid year exception is still present.
Now, how many choose to remain, transfer, or just graduate still remains to be seen.
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Very interesting comments on the offensive line last radio show. Paraphrasing, but Carty basically said it was the least confident position group he had ever been around in all his years of coaching when he arrived. Last year they started to gain some confidence, this year really starting to grow.
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Henzone wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:34 am
Bluewyn Gold wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:28 am
Henzone wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:11 amThe OL is growing and they need to move the ball by land and by air, whatever works.
Well said. I firmly believe that as goes the OL, so goes the remainder of the '23 season.

It's sure easier for a OL to run block then pass block. Even if your team is built to throw you
adjust and take what's working. That's just common sense.

I suggest that's been the problem in the red zone. We want to run these predetermined plays rather then what's already proven to advance the ball.

Anyhow, Saturday is a good day for a win.
I’ve been encouraged with some of the wrinkles we’ve added the past few games down in the RZ, particularly by the goal line. Whether that leads to long term success, we’ll find out.
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tenn hen wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:32 am
jd of de wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:24 am Slow starts and special teams are my concern as well.

Entering the season my concern was the O-line and I am pleased with how we have improved there.
agree with 1st sentence, but not sure about the 2nd- more games may establish that though it might take a while to validly judge that concern. the PSU game raised questions about our O. Certainly the Dukes shouldn't tell us anything. scheduling Duquesne was uncalled for. Is LIU coming up too? :oops:
PSU game told us nothing. We will not face another defense like that again.
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Udforever1 wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:58 am
tenn hen wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:32 am
jd of de wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:24 am Slow starts and special teams are my concern as well.

Entering the season my concern was the O-line and I am pleased with how we have improved there.
agree with 1st sentence, but not sure about the 2nd- more games may establish that though it might take a while to validly judge that concern. the PSU game raised questions about our O. Certainly the Dukes shouldn't tell us anything. scheduling Duquesne was uncalled for. Is LIU coming up too? :oops:
PSU game told us nothing. We will not face another defense like that again.
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We are 3-1....soon to be 4-1.

After 18 games, Carty will be 12-6, with playoff victory. Pretty good start?

How were our other coaches after 18 games...and how did their 2nd year finish?

Tubby: 8-10. Second season finished 2-7, which was his 18th game.

KC Keeler: 12-6. Second season finished 15-1 (going 9-1 after his 18th game, which included a 6-game winning streak that culminated in winning a national championship).

Brock: 11-7. Second season finished 6-6 (going 2-4 after his 18th game, including a 2-game losing streak which kept us out of the playoffs).

Rocco: 12-6. Second season finished 8-5 (going 2-3 after his 18th game, including a 3-game losing streak that included a playoff loss).

How will Carty's second season end? Hoping for at least one more playoff victory...maybe two.

By the end of Saturday, Carty will be tied for first place (compared to our 4 most recent Blu Hens coaches) with wins after 18 games. :D

Still, there is a lot of complaining...ooops, observations...about the coaching. Mostly about the O in this thread. Maybe because we covered the D before? But that ended with someone saying the coaches know best. So why are people giving suggestions about play calling, Red Zone efficiency, playing time and all sorts of suggestions correcting the O and Special Teams without being told the coaches know best this time? Must be (D)ifferent. :lol:



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Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS

Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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tenn hen wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:32 am
jd of de wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:24 am Slow starts and special teams are my concern as well.

Entering the season my concern was the O-line and I am pleased with how we have improved there.
agree with 1st sentence, but not sure about the 2nd- more games may establish that though it might take a while to validly judge that concern. the PSU game raised questions about our O. Certainly the Dukes shouldn't tell us anything. scheduling Duquesne was uncalled for. Is LIU coming up too? :oops:
Watch the Penn State tape. Our O-line opened holes much of the day. The speed which the Penn State linebackers and safeties plugged those hole was stunning. Even at Penn State we showed real progress.
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jd of de wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:49 pm
tenn hen wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:32 am
jd of de wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:24 am Slow starts and special teams are my concern as well.

Entering the season my concern was the O-line and I am pleased with how we have improved there.
agree with 1st sentence, but not sure about the 2nd- more games may establish that though it might take a while to validly judge that concern. the PSU game raised questions about our O. Certainly the Dukes shouldn't tell us anything. scheduling Duquesne was uncalled for. Is LIU coming up too? :oops:
Watch the Penn State tape. Our O-line opened holes much of the day. The speed which the Penn State linebackers and safeties plugged those hole was stunning. Even at Penn State we showed real progress.
The preseason knock on PSU was their small DL...especially on the interior...compared to the big-time FBS teams. Could they hold up against the bigger OLs? Think the announcers mentioned it as well. Will it be their Waterloo before the season is over?
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS

Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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Clucky - We don't need another of your history lessons but that's what you do. 3 of the 4 coaches you highlighted were eventually fired. We don't want Ryan to follow that path. Your numbers are worthless.

Those of us who think about the program from a former football player or coach's perspective or even from a knowledgeable fan's viewpoint often enjoy commenting on game decisions or events that may affect the future . I do understand that can be annoying to others , like yourself, who are a bit more rah rah , Swifty type but we really don't mean to hurt any feelings.
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