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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by The January Man » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:35 pm

Are the playoffs really that enjoyable to you guys? Especially you Old Bulls that want to stay in FCS, hoping and praying that UD actually is a good team with a shot to win it sometime in the near future.

It's not fun. There are 24 teams that make the Tournament. Maybe 3-4 have a chance to win it. That means a TON OF SLOP is in the Tournament. UD is part of that slop when they get in, once every X years.

We know already who will probably win it 3 out of the next 4 years, don't we? That QB on NDSU is a redshirt-Frosh. NDSU will just re-load around him and win and win and win and win.

I'd rather get my butt kicked at the next level than stay put and have the same crap happen season after season at this level.

/END RANT

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by Hensfansince03 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:41 pm

We play in FCS and SUCK. Why would you even think of FBS?
The January Man wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:35 pm
Are the playoffs really that enjoyable to you guys? Especially you Old Bulls that want to stay in FCS, hoping and praying that UD actually is a good team with a shot to win it sometime in the near future.

It's not fun. There are 24 teams that make the Tournament. Maybe 3-4 have a chance to win it. That means a TON OF SLOP is in the Tournament. UD is part of that slop when they get in, once every X years.

We know already who will probably win it 3 out of the next 4 years, don't we? That QB on NDSU is a redshirt-Frosh. NDSU will just re-load around him and win and win and win and win.

I'd rather get my butt kicked at the next level than stay put and have the same crap happen season after season at this level.

/END RANT

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by Caribbean Hen » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:09 pm

North Dakota State's next game is against Oregon, this is the kind of team the Bison should be playing every Saturday
recruiting recruiting recruiting...It ain't rocket science....We need better more athletic players...That simple....

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by Caribbean Hen » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:09 pm

North Dakota State's next game is against Oregon, this is the kind of team the Bison should be playing every Saturday
recruiting recruiting recruiting...It ain't rocket science....We need better more athletic players...That simple....

posted by Joe C December 10th, 2019

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by Hensfansince03 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:14 pm

UD is bigger stronger university surrounded with better football talent. We invest more dollars in the program then NDSU. We should be on there level. It's a joke we are this bad. Brocco era must end. We are better then them on all levels other than the field. So pissed
Caribbean Hen wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:09 pm
North Dakota State's next game is against Oregon, this is the kind of team the Bison should be playing every Saturday

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by 93BlueHen » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:38 pm

It's tough to watch a team own a decade while we lost one.
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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by UDJoe » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:41 pm

IMHO, there should be lots of questions about how Cignetti managed the clock at the end of the game.

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by UD77 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:14 am

The January Man wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:35 pm
Are the playoffs really that enjoyable to you guys? Especially you Old Bulls that want to stay in FCS, hoping and praying that UD actually is a good team with a shot to win it sometime in the near future.

It's not fun. There are 24 teams that make the Tournament. Maybe 3-4 have a chance to win it. That means a TON OF SLOP is in the Tournament. UD is part of that slop when they get in, once every X years.

We know already who will probably win it 3 out of the next 4 years, don't we? That QB on NDSU is a redshirt-Frosh. NDSU will just re-load around him and win and win and win and win.

I'd rather get my butt kicked at the next level than stay put and have the same crap happen season after season at this level.

/END RANT
In my opinion UD has always been minor league and most likely will stay there. Most of our FB history has been D2 where we played the likes of the Merchant Marine, Gettysburg, etc. Yes we beat some of the Semi - Bigger Boys (Temple, Nova, etc) but we basically beat up on little guys and pretty much the same teams we play today. The only actual Div 1 national champion team was Field Hockey (where we play against the best in the country and not a D1 FCS type of situation). We will never be competing for the FB National Championship as in this Monday's game, so I would rather settle for an FCS championship rather than play in an Outback/ Tampon / Back Scratch-er Bowl where a 6-5 UD plays a 6-5 UMass in Houston Texas on a Thursday night where the winner gets a ..... what? The bowls remind me of the participation awards that we give to all the kids that just show up for practice and don't win the championship. They are a reason to go to another part of the country and see the sites.

Just curious, how many bowls are there in a year. If it is 15, outside of the top four that are playing for something, doesn't that make 30 teams in a one game playoff that can claim that they won a bowl and nothing more. Nice trip for the players, but means nothing.

Currently we would not even have a chance in the next level up in FB to even make to a minor bowl appearance - that would be a lot of fun

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by jd of de » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:26 am

UD77 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:14 am
The bowls remind me of the participation awards that we give to all the kids that just show up for practice and don't win the championship. They are a reason to go to another part of the country and see the sites.

Just curious, how many bowls are there in a year. If it is 15, outside of the top four that are playing for something, doesn't that make 30 teams in a one game playoff that can claim that they won a bowl and nothing more. Nice trip for the players, but means nothing.
Excluding the game Monday night (both teams already competed in a bowl game), there are 39 bowls games this season. Since 130 teams compete at the FBS level, only 52 of them DO NOT compete in a bowl game. Participation award aptly describes most of the bowl games.

For those that continually post how watered down a 24 team, FCS playoff system is.
78 of 130 FBS teams play in a bowl game ... 60.00%
24 of 126 FCS teams make the playoffs ... 19.05%

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by Hens79 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:44 am

I’d rather get a “participation trophy” and have the chance to go to a decent venue in December than be irrelevant in the has been world of FCS football. Sure would be fun to be App St and play and beat North and South Carolina in the same season, average close to 25K attendance, and play a bowl game in NOLA. That excites people.

Few care about Elon, Albany and Stony Brook. That they regularly beat the Hens is ... well ... you .... know embarrassing. And fewer and fewer care every year. Oh well ... it was 68 yesterday and will be 65 today here in Newark. Listened to the Hens beat down to Towson yesterday while I did yard work in shorts. Gotta be thankful for something.

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by BlueHenBobby » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:10 am

93BlueHen wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:38 pm
It's tough to watch a team own a decade while we lost one.
NDSU wins the FCS championship 8 out of the last 9 years with three different coaches. Perplexing on many levels. I can't believe they have that deep of a coaching well on their staff every year. Have any of their recent coaches who moved even won their conferences? If their success is all about coaching then their AD has the market cornered on the coach selection process. The buzz I always hear about their success is their recruiting- limited competition in their geographic region with some recruiting success nationally. In either case, coaching or recruiting, Seemingly UD hasn't been able to get coach selection or recruiting right for some time. We have lots of resources and are geographically in a reasonable region to recruit, why can't we get it right? Maybe this season things will turn around, I sure hope so.
PS Bohl has had one Mountain West championship since leaving NDSU and his last two seasons have been mediocre at best. Kleiman has only one season in at KSU finishing at 8-5. Bohl hasn't fallen flat on his face but he isn't setting the world on fire at Wyoming. Jury is still out on Klieman.

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by hendog » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:24 am

regardless there doing something right while we hire 2nd rate coaches who cant recruit or coach talent whatever it is

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by bct2000 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:09 pm

UDJoe wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:41 pm
IMHO, there should be lots of questions about how Cignetti managed the clock at the end of the game.
That was the same thing I noticed. Bad clock management by JMU on that last drive, over 20 seconds were going off the clock between plays. Coaching was a big factor in that game. JMU was caught flat-footed on the fake FG where the holder ran 20 yds for a TD. A different player was in as the holder, which as someone else pointed out, should have been a tip-off that a trick play was coming. When JMU tried a flea-flicker with a little over a minute left in the game, NDSU was not fooled at all, both safeties were tightly on the tight end, who was the only receiver in the play. I'll give NDSU credit, they are a VERY well coached team. Everyone seems to be where they are supposed to be, you don't see players out of position. They are fundamentally sound along with having great talent.

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by bct2000 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:50 pm

jd of de wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:26 am
UD77 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:14 am
The bowls remind me of the participation awards that we give to all the kids that just show up for practice and don't win the championship. They are a reason to go to another part of the country and see the sites.

Just curious, how many bowls are there in a year. If it is 15, outside of the top four that are playing for something, doesn't that make 30 teams in a one game playoff that can claim that they won a bowl and nothing more. Nice trip for the players, but means nothing.
Excluding the game Monday night (both teams already competed in a bowl game), there are 39 bowls games this season. Since 130 teams compete at the FBS level, only 52 of them DO NOT compete in a bowl game. Participation award aptly describes most of the bowl games.

For those that continually post how watered down a 24 team, FCS playoff system is.
78 of 130 FBS teams play in a bowl game ... 60.00%
24 of 126 FCS teams make the playoffs ... 19.05%
+1 Only 6 FBS wins are needed to qualify for a bowl. This means a 6-5 team can be bowl-eligible if the 6 wins are against FBS teams. Some real mediocrity in many of these lesser bowls.

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Re: JMU vs NDSU tomorrow

Post by bct2000 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:50 pm

jd of de wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:26 am
UD77 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:14 am
The bowls remind me of the participation awards that we give to all the kids that just show up for practice and don't win the championship. They are a reason to go to another part of the country and see the sites.

Just curious, how many bowls are there in a year. If it is 15, outside of the top four that are playing for something, doesn't that make 30 teams in a one game playoff that can claim that they won a bowl and nothing more. Nice trip for the players, but means nothing.
Excluding the game Monday night (both teams already competed in a bowl game), there are 39 bowls games this season. Since 130 teams compete at the FBS level, only 52 of them DO NOT compete in a bowl game. Participation award aptly describes most of the bowl games.

For those that continually post how watered down a 24 team, FCS playoff system is.
78 of 130 FBS teams play in a bowl game ... 60.00%
24 of 126 FCS teams make the playoffs ... 19.05%
+1 Only 6 FBS wins are needed to qualify for a bowl. This means a 6-5 team can be bowl-eligible if the 6 wins are against FBS teams. Some real mediocrity in many of these lesser bowls.

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