Interesting article about PSU scheduling FCS
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Interesting article about PSU scheduling FCS
Looks like, so far, we’re still on the schedule for 2027
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Well, we have a game against the Nittany Lions to look forward to in 2027. The Hens will likely be a FBS team by then.
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If we're an FBS by '27, we shouldn't be playing for anything close to the $400k they suckered us with in '23. They got a bargain, even at FCS rates.
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If that indeed is what was paid to UD for that game it truly is Penn State stealing. My hope is we don't wait too much longer to get the 2027 game OFF the schedule and get a team more closely aligned with us. We should have gotten double that amount.Bluewyn Gold wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:29 pm If we're an FBS by '27, we shouldn't be playing for anything close to the $400k they suckered us with in '23. They got a bargain, even at FCS rates.
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According to Joe D’Antonio , the commissioner of the CAA, the payouts for CAA teams from FBS teams run between $250,000-$400,000.
If you are a G5 team, you will be paid more than that by the Big Boys. Another reason to move up.
If you are a G5 team, you will be paid more than that by the Big Boys. Another reason to move up.
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Yup, the arithmetic does not lie. More revenue available from a home game than that. Not even close.Bluewyn Gold wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:29 pm If we're an FBS by '27, we shouldn't be playing for anything close to the $400k they suckered us with in '23. They got a bargain, even at FCS rates.
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UMass is getting $1.6M for this week's game at PSU.
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The FBS games are pretty fun. Looking forward to 2027 at PSU. No need to cancel it. We just need to get better to be more competitive. Not convinced this year's Hens team is that great even at the FCS level and this years Penn State team is special at the FBS level. Hope we get better and schedule some more FBS games. We will prob be FBS by 2030.
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Ohio State just inked a deal with UNH that will pay the ‘Cats a cool $1M to play in Columbus in ‘27. No way UD takes less than that for a return trip to Pennsylvania State.
https://www.unionleader.com/news/educat ... 30ca3.html
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Please explain the shred of leverage UD has.Bluewyn Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:04 amOhio State just inked a deal with UNH that will pay the ‘Cats a cool $1M to play in Columbus in ‘27. No way UD takes less than that for a return trip to Pennsylvania State.
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Re: Interesting article about PSU scheduling FCS
Don't you think that deal has already been signed since the game is on the schedule? It is what it is.Bluewyn Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:04 amOhio State just inked a deal with UNH that will pay the ‘Cats a cool $1M to play in Columbus in ‘27. No way UD takes less than that for a return trip to Pennsylvania State.
https://www.unionleader.com/news/educat ... 30ca3.html
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Much needed cash and have upped the ante for us going to the MAC, using the poor A10 financials. UMass denied Matt Browns request for figures and then went to the NCAA and got them.
The A10 TEN that did what was best for their athletic department.MattBrownEP wrote: Per their NCAA-mandated FRS report which I have obtained via open records, here's what UMass declared re; M basketball budget:
FY22 Men's Basketball Revenues: $587,017
FY22 Men's Basketball Operating Expenses: $4,454,120
Every university with FBS dreams has left the A10, except UMass: Penn State, Pittsburg, Rutgers, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Temple and Charlotte.
Not only are they all better off today, ever other team that has left the A10 is better off today: Villanova, Xavier, and Butler.
Sent out emails as felt the time is right, Gloria Nevarez, MWC commissioner and NCAA president, Charlie Baker have recently visited UMass and the team and wigs are heading to former A10 member Penn State this weekend.
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William, the leverage is telling Penn State, "Sorry. Circumstances changed, so we won't be there in '27." Do it now to allow the hosts plenty of time to find another sucker. Presumably, the agreement was not signed in blood and certified by Lucifer. Cancellations like this happen all the time. There are provisions and buyouts associated with these sort of scheduling agreements. (Even happens with our Hens. You might recall SDSU backing out of the 2-for-1 earlier in the millennium and Furman backing out of the second half of a home-home.)
Why Delaware felt compelled to sign on for one game, let alone lock in for two, is another question altogether.
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I honestly have no clue what the contractual specifics associated with these buy games are, but I would imagine there's some kind of liquidated damages penalty UD would be obligated to pay for canceling the game, unless for force majeure reasons.
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Yessir. The amount of any buyout likely depends on whether or not '27 was part of a one or two-game agreement, the timing of the cancellation, and other factors.Housthen18 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:55 amI honestly have no clue what the contractual specifics associated with these buy games are, but I would imagine there's some kind of liquidated damages penalty UD would be obligated to pay for canceling the game, unless for force majeure reasons.
Point is, William the K posed that UD had little leverage in renegotiating or canceling the '27 game, which is simply not accurate. Usually, scheduling agreements are structured with buyouts for both sides. For the visiting school, that amount is typically some fraction of the total guarantee if done with X number of days. Game agreements also typically contain provisions for mutually agreed-upon market adjustments. If UD did not establish such an agreement with PSU, they are damned fools.