CFP Approves 5+7 Playoff Format

[Caldwell Chicken]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... am-playoff

In case you missed it...article above.

[tenn hen]

read the article yesterday am. Opportunity knocks for CUSA, and UD might benefit from this decision since CUSA could possibly get that invite. Can you imagine UD v Ga in the CFP? though that might be a tough game Recruits will drool at the possibility! I'd be on the phone with that news asap to lure a few undecided guys our way. the early bird gets the worm.

[hensfan40yrs]

not a tomahawk fan but ask FSU how efficient the "system" is.

[jd of de]

The idea of a college football playoff system came to be because historically the national championship was subjective; simply the opinion of a group of voters. A playoff system was meant to make the determination of the national champion objective; determined on the field.

If you are going to include the G5s, the CFP needs to include all 5 of them for the determination of the national champion to be objective. This system still leaves the subjective (opinion) in place. You will see that when a 12-1 MountainWest or AAC team gets in while a 13-0 CUSA, Sun Belt or MAC stays home.

Nine conference championships; nine conference champions get in. This simple idea is what makes March Madness what it has become.

[Bluewyn Gold]

Nine conference championships; nine conference champions get in. This simple idea is what makes March Madness what it has become.

Excellent commentary.

Unfortunately, some Power conference commissioners seem intent on fixing what isn't broken with the hoops tournaments. We'll see if it comes to pass, but it sure seems like the top conferences are interested in consolidating as much of the power and money as possible to the detriment of college athletics.

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-college-s ... 59682.html

[UDPat]

I'm no expert but, Most on here seem to think this means inclusion, I hope I'm wrong but I'm not seeing this that way. This is for Georgia's, Ohio St and FSU's of 2023. Finding ways to get them in, not opening it up to as many as possible, IMHO

[Cluck U]

The idea of a college football playoff system came to be because historically the national championship was subjective; simply the opinion of a group of voters. A playoff system was meant to make the determination of the national champion objective; determined on the field.

If you are going to include the G5s, the CFP needs to include all 5 of them for the determination of the national champion to be objective. This system still leaves the subjective (opinion) in place. You will see that when a 12-1 MountainWest or AAC team gets in while a 13-0 CUSA, Sun Belt or MAC stays home.

Nine conference championships; nine conference champions get in. This simple idea is what makes March Madness what it has become.

Yup. Plenty of controversy back in the day when national champions were determined by voters (most didn't see many, if any, games from other areas). No attempt at scientific analysis or massive computers calculating strength of schedule...just a vote for the popular team/area/coach. Heck, because a lot of the writers were from bigger cities, states, schools or regions, there were plenty of "homer" votes.

Things got better once playoffs were implemented, but FBS simply coddled together the "top" 4 teams. As we have seen in FCS and other lower football divisions, and especially in March Madness basketball games, we've had true champions that were certainly not in the top 4 ranked teams. Fans often cheer on the underdog...and it takes a real playoff system to determine a true championship team.

Happy that FBS has expanded the CFP, but, as jd says, until they include all conference champions, it won't truly be a national championship playoff format.

But, our Blue Hens can now think about actually being in a future big boy playoff bracket. That is fantastic! Just win, baby!

[finpxz1]

The fact that the G5 schools are guaranteed at least one spot in the playoffs is a great thing. But to suggest that all 9 conference champions get an automatic bid into a 12-team bracket is downright absurd. Until the field expands to 24 or 32 teams, if it ever does, there is no way all 9 conferences will get an automatic qualifier. Nor do they deserve to. Liberty clearly demonstrated that this year when they got smoked by Oregon on New Years Day. It’s great to dream, but let’s not get crazy here…

[Cluck U]

The fact that the G5 schools are guaranteed at least one spot in the playoffs is a great thing. But to suggest that all 9 conference champions get an automatic bid into a 12-team bracket is downright absurd. Until the field expands to 24 or 32 teams, if it ever does, there is no way all 9 conferences will get an automatic qualifier. Nor do they deserve to. Liberty clearly demonstrated that this year when they got smoked by Oregon on New Years Day. It’s great to dream, but let’s not get crazy here…

You are correct. The Patriot League champ is not going to win FCS…BUT, they are invited to try.

16 teams should cover it. G5 champs + 11 others. That would mean 9 conference champions and the next 7 highest ranked teams. It isn’t complicated.

[tenn hen]

read the article yesterday am. Opportunity knocks for CUSA, and UD might benefit from this decision since CUSA could possibly get that invite.

all the reporting, even today's mention that they had some discussion would increase participation to a 14 team CFP, is clear. It is about access for more quality teams especially the SEC and BIG10 which clearly would receive more slots. Any of the advocates for the previous "all conference champs inclusion" are unrealistic and naive. It's all about the money!

[Caldwell Chicken]

read the article yesterday am. Opportunity knocks for CUSA, and UD might benefit from this decision since CUSA could possibly get that invite.

all the reporting, even today's mention that they had some discussion would increase participation to a 14 team CFP, is clear. It is about access for more quality teams especially the SEC and BIG10 which clearly would receive more slots. Any of the advocates for the previous "all conference champs inclusion" are unrealistic and naive. It's all about the money!

When the approval broke, there was a CBS Sports article that essentially supported your opinion. Interestingly, I can no longer locate that article. It particularly noted a few programs the change would support and they were all big name, big money schools in conferences such as SEC and Big 10. It will take a bigger playoff system for "auto bid conference" winners to support that idea...as other message board posters mentioned.

[hensfan40yrs]

March Madness - 16 seeds upsetting 1 seeds is what makes it arguably the most watched sporting event.

[finpxz1]

This is Big Boy football and not the FCS playoffs. There is way too much money involved to turn the BCS playoffs into an “everyone gets a chance” tournament. The fact that the G5 schools even get one seat at the adults table is a great thing. Don’t hold your breath for a 9-conference automatic qualifier format anytime soon.

[hensfan40yrs]

This is Big Boy football and not the FCS playoffs. There is way too much money involved to turn the BCS playoffs into an “everyone gets a chance” tournament. The fact that the G5 schools even get one seat at the adults table is a great thing. Don’t hold your breath for a 9-conference automatic qualifier format anytime soon.

I know it will never come to that and college football is a whole different animal than college basketball, just enjoyable watching the last teams in sometimes upsetting the Blue Bloods

[finpxz1]

This is Big Boy football and not the FCS playoffs. There is way too much money involved to turn the BCS playoffs into an “everyone gets a chance” tournament. The fact that the G5 schools even get one seat at the adults table is a great thing. Don’t hold your breath for a 9-conference automatic qualifier format anytime soon.

I know it will never come to that and college football is a whole different animal than college basketball, just enjoyable watching the last teams in sometimes upsetting the Blue Bloods

Totally agree…but college football is a different animal. If we ever get to a 24-team BCS format, then maybe the smaller conferences will be part of some kind of play-in format. But I just don’t see that happening any time soon.