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Bluewyn Gold wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:42 am
Cluck U wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:14 am
In any case, Brown would have had to have interviewed their candidates, so someone has to know if DeLuca was one of those guys.

Fingers crossed…
Hope realized.

Brown selected Torpey from High Point.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... oach/63466
Whew! Thanks for the update! :D

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Finished with “receiving votes” in the final Inside Lacrosse poll. Towson finished 12th.
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https://x.com/LacrosseNetwork/status/16 ... 6395645971

UD also made the Cloudy Competitors level on TLN’s NCAA Mountain of Excellence for the 2nd year in a row (although lower placed than last year).

Note: the above link is for 2023…can’t find the 2024 link on this device, but I have it on my phone.


It was interesting to hear that one of Notre Dame’s lacrosse starters was recruited to ND with a “lacrosse scholarship.” But, the guy also walked on to the ND football team and made a name for himself. The lacrosse announcers then said he is now on a full football scholarship.

So…was his initial lacrosse schollie only a partial scholarship? Seems as though the football scholarship is one with more benefits. Since he is on a football scholarship, does that free up a lacrosse scholarship for someone else or does he still count against the lacrosse scholarships limit?

Related to the above, it was fun hearing about the history of great players that played both football and lacrosse. Jim Brown, of course, being one of the most notable. Also interesting that the announcers pointed out that wideouts had skills that lined up well with lacrosse players (beating your defender with one-on-one moves off the first step, among other relatable skills).
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Cluck:

D1 has a 12.6 scholie limit on an equivalency basis. So, if the ND player already has a full FB scholie, then I think they can save any MLAX scholie for him.
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dchen wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:30 pm Cluck:

D1 has a 12.6 scholie limit on an equivalency basis. So, if the ND player already has a full FB scholie, then I think they can save any MLAX scholie for him.
Thanks, dchen.

Come to think of it, what is the point of having scholarship limits these days? NIL money can be given to anyone…so what would prevent the Big Boys from simply giving 120 football players, or 30 lacrosse players, NIL money?

Wild ride ahead.
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Cluck U wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 8:14 am
dchen wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:30 pm Cluck:

D1 has a 12.6 scholie limit on an equivalency basis. So, if the ND player already has a full FB scholie, then I think they can save any MLAX scholie for him.
Thanks, dchen.

Come to think of it, what is the point of having scholarship limits these days? NIL money can be given to anyone…so what would prevent the Big Boys from simply giving 120 football players, or 30 lacrosse players, NIL money?

Wild ride ahead.
There is already talk about eliminating scholarship limits. The rich get richer.
On a lacrosse note, the quality and depth of Notre Dame’s laxx team is directly related to NIL payments.
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I seem to recall that the original intent of the scholarship limits was to prevent rich schools from stockpiling talent. NIL payments and future direct payment arrangements to be allowed by the recent litigation settlement with the NCAA and big conferences would seem to defeat those limits.
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dchen wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:48 am I seem to recall that the original intent of the scholarship limits was to prevent rich schools from stockpiling talent. NIL payments and future direct payment arrangements to be allowed by the recent litigation settlement with the NCAA and big conferences would seem to defeat those limits.
Yup. New world...but mostly the same as the old boss. Lots of talent will be sitting on P5 benches (although it already does) in all sports.

However, one of the main factors in this new world of college athletics, besides money, will still be playing time. Who wants more playing time? Sit on the bench and earn good money at a P5, or take a chance on yourself and go to a lower school for less money in order to show your ability...and then, of course, transfer again to cash in if you do well. :lol:

The players at Notre Dame got a little bit of the best of both worlds. Their coach played a 3rd line regularly, and players apparently got enough NIL money to make them happy. Throw in a National Championship or two and the name Notre Dame on your diploma (with deep alumni contacts)...that is a tough thing to match for UD and others. We just have to position ourselves as a second-tier team, one that attracts good players that were overlooked a bit and have a chip on their shoulders, so that we can make the playoffs more regularly, get more TV money and recognition, and, hopefully, be within some luck and grit of the top teams.
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There is a college sports world where the players are unpaid amateurs, some may get grants in aid, many of the schools are excellent academic institutions, they can compete for national championships and some of the schools sponsor way more sports than the D1 schools. That world is NCAA Division 3. It’s an alternate universe.
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dchen wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:11 pm There is a college sports world where the players are unpaid amateurs, some may get grants in aid, many of the schools are excellent academic institutions, they can compete for national championships and some of the schools sponsor way more sports than the D1 schools. That world is NCAA Division 3. It’s an alternate universe.
D3 football playoffs are still shown on ESPN. Somehow, that money will trickle down. Checks will be smaller.

Wonder how the Little League World Series will eventually be affected. Certainly, someone is making money off those games…the lawyers and families of players will eventually want their piece of the pie.

Amateur sports is dead.


Regardless, I am looking forward to watching our lacrosse team next year. A lot of young players got experience. Might need to add some pieces, but we should have a good base.
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dchen wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:11 pm There is a college sports world where the players are unpaid amateurs, some may get grants in aid, many of the schools are excellent academic institutions, they can compete for national championships and some of the schools sponsor way more sports than the D1 schools. That world is NCAA Division 3. It’s an alternate universe.
My friend has a grandson who plays DIII baseball at Misericordia (Dallas, PA). They won the first game of the best of three series DIII championship series. It is fun and exciting to watch. And I’m not even that much of a baseball fan. (I was worried that you were going to say it was the (poison) Ivies).
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77HEN wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:36 pm
dchen wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:11 pm There is a college sports world where the players are unpaid amateurs, some may get grants in aid, many of the schools are excellent academic institutions, they can compete for national championships and some of the schools sponsor way more sports than the D1 schools. That world is NCAA Division 3. It’s an alternate universe.
My friend has a grandson who plays DIII baseball at Misericordia (Dallas, PA). They won the first game of the best of three series DIII championship series. It is fun and exciting to watch. And I’m not even that much of a baseball fan. (I was worried that you were going to say it was the (poison) Ivies).
Misericordia is on a heck of a run. When I played them in college, they pretty much had a patch of grass as a field. Now a beautiful facility which has gone hand in hand with their recent success. Few local products on the team as well and another local kid headed there next year.
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From Inside Lacrosse on incoming players from the transfer portal:

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Cory Capri, M, Yale (Gr.)
Jack Kolbe, M, Merrimack
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dchen wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:35 am From Inside Lacrosse on incoming players from the transfer portal:

Delaware

Cory Capri, M, Yale (Gr.)
Jack Kolbe, M, Merrimack
Thanks, DC. Did it say what year Kolbe is?
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We have major holes to fill at Attack. The transfer route could really help us here.
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