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Major NCAA roster /scholarship doings

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REPORT: The NCAA is expected to approve increased scholarships across multiple sports, per @RossDellenger

Football 105 (+20)
Basketball 15 (+2)
Baseball 34 (+22.3)
Softball 25 (+13)
Volleyball 18 (+6)

on3.com/news/ncaa-appr…

Huge news for baseball and softball programs that had been held at 11.7 for scholarships. Their roster sizes drop though. Baseball from 40 to 34. For football it’s huge - teams can give 105 scholarships starting the 25-26 year. All of this has been approved by league commissioners now and is expected to breeze into reality as early as the end of this week.
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Yikes, those are huge numbers. Just thinking who it benefits, school-wise, though. Clearly the big schools, awash in money, are the big winners. The ACC and SEC baseball schools are about to more than double their scholarships. Do schools like Delaware even budge, though, considering baseball is far from a revenue sport here and in the north? Just because you can give out more full rides doesn't mean everyone will.

And don't overlook the football number - going from 85 to 105 scholarships means another 20 kids per roster are getting full rides. Figure around 60 P5 (I know, outdated term) and that's 1200 kids who could be getting full rides at those schools. That creates less incentive for the players that need the money to go to school to skip those schools and play for non-P5 FBS schools. To me, this is the big schools looking at the money they have and the best way to keep separating themselves from the rest of the D1 schools.
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Gannonfan wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:21 am Yikes, those are huge numbers. Just thinking who it benefits, school-wise, though. Clearly the big schools, awash in money, are the big winners. The ACC and SEC baseball schools are about to more than double their scholarships. Do schools like Delaware even budge, though, considering baseball is far from a revenue sport here and in the north? Just because you can give out more full rides doesn't mean everyone will.

And don't overlook the football number - going from 85 to 105 scholarships means another 20 kids per roster are getting full rides. Figure around 60 P5 (I know, outdated term) and that's 1200 kids who could be getting full rides at those schools. That creates less incentive for the players that need the money to go to school to skip those schools and play for non-P5 FBS schools. To me, this is the big schools looking at the money they have and the best way to keep separating themselves from the rest of the D1 schools.
Well said and 100% accurate.

I believe those that think the new rules that have been made recently will really benefit UD, are well ??? a little foolish. JMHO
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Gannonfan wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:21 am Yikes, those are huge numbers. Just thinking who it benefits, school-wise, though. Clearly the big schools, awash in money, are the big winners. The ACC and SEC baseball schools are about to more than double their scholarships. Do schools like Delaware even budge, though, considering baseball is far from a revenue sport here and in the north? Just because you can give out more full rides doesn't mean everyone will.

And don't overlook the football number - going from 85 to 105 scholarships means another 20 kids per roster are getting full rides. Figure around 60 P5 (I know, outdated term) and that's 1200 kids who could be getting full rides at those schools. That creates less incentive for the players that need the money to go to school to skip those schools and play for non-P5 FBS schools. To me, this is the big schools looking at the money they have and the best way to keep separating themselves from the rest of the D1 schools.
Very interesting insight and appreciate the post. It did not cross my mind when it was announced but you certainly have me thinking now.
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Yup...the rich get richer.

Those extra schollies, especially baseball, are crazy.

And while the extra scholarships are an important base...the additional NIL money the big schools can offer can add significant income to the kids.

Kids will have a choice...sit on the bench and earn full scholarship money + some NIL money, or jump down and get playing time at a smaller school with the chance to get noticed and make more NIL money once the kid returns to the bigger schools.

One might say that scenario was already in place, but the additional scholarships mean there are more kids getting the automatic money...a nice safety net...going to the Big Time schools and therefor less incentive for kids to take a chance to move down.

Seriously, how many of our current scholarship baseball players would jump at the opportunity to get a free ride play for a southern baseball school? Going to be tough for our baseball coaches (any team in the northeast, really) to recruit.
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Baseball has always been the #1 sport for me. That said, it's going to be increasingly more difficult for Delaware to compete in D-I baseball as a member of CUSA. I would not be surprised at all if the sport eventually goes away at UD.
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Bluewyn Gold wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:08 pm Baseball has always been the #1 sport for me. That said, it's going to be increasingly more difficult for Delaware to compete in D-I baseball as a member of CUSA. I would not be surprised at all if the sport eventually goes away at UD.
CUSA and the CAA have been very similar conference RPI wise the past two years, and UD has had a first couple good seasons under Mamula. Key is to keep the momentum going. As with most sports, what differentiates the CUSA and CAA is that the CUSA currently doesn’t have the bottom feeders bringing it down.

While a small sample size in this tweet, interesting that some D1 mid major coaches (baseball wise, because I highly doubt football mid major coaches think the same) think this will actually benefit them a bit due to the decreased roster sizes and players trickling down.

https://x.com/KendallRogers/status/1816179390969159743
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Doubt if it will help us. We still have to comply with Title IX
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Did not mean to post, sorry.
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Dovetail is right and hit on my first thought when this became public. The Title IX balance at UD is so delicate, a D1 woman’s sport needed to be added to add 22 football scholarships. G5 male Olympic sport athletes everywhere are rightly worried about this news.

This is just another in a long list of reasons that the Powers and the G5s need a different set of rules. Or revenue sharing.
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Udforever1 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:19 pmCUSA and the CAA have been very similar conference RPI wise the past two years, and UD has had a first couple good seasons under Mamula. Key is to keep the momentum going. As with most sports, what differentiates the CUSA and CAA is that the CUSA currently doesn’t have the bottom feeders bringing it down.
The CAA doesn't have anything close to Dallas Baptist by a country mile. Don't forget that KSU is also bringing their rather strong club into the league. MSU has been up and down but has been NCAA regional champs two seasons in the last 10.

IMO, CUSA's baseball will far surpass the CAA in rather short order. It's going to be tough sledding for the Hens.
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Bluewyn Gold wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:17 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:19 pmCUSA and the CAA have been very similar conference RPI wise the past two years, and UD has had a first couple good seasons under Mamula. Key is to keep the momentum going. As with most sports, what differentiates the CUSA and CAA is that the CUSA currently doesn’t have the bottom feeders bringing it down.
The CAA doesn't have anything close to Dallas Baptist by a country mile. Don't forget that KSU is also bringing their rather strong club into the league. MSU has been up and down but has been NCAA regional champs two seasons in the last 10.

IMO, CUSA's baseball will far surpass the CAA in rather short order. It's going to be tough sledding for the Hens.
Not disagreeing with you here. CUSA is making some fantastic additions on top of already having some terrific programs in DBU and LA Tech. Missouri State even getting one of the better high school power hitters to come through Delaware in some time as well.

Just pointing out that in this particular sport, things have been about even the past few years between the conferences. Three top 50 RPI teams from the CAA this past year, and that doesn’t even include Campbell, who’s been a mid major power over the past few years and, while DBU has had a bit more success, hasn’t been too far behind.

Highly doubt UD looks to get rid of the program after all the resources they’ve dumped into the program the past few years, just my opinion though. Thrilled we’re leaving, and this whole process will be fun to watch amongst all sports.
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Udforever1 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:12 pmHighly doubt UD looks to get rid of the program after all the resources they’ve dumped into the program the past few years, just my opinion though. Thrilled we’re leaving, and this whole process will be fun to watch amongst all sports.
I tend to agree with you on all counts, friend. Appreciate the thoughtful response.

It will be interesting to follow how things proceed going forward across the entire AD. I don't think anyone can predict what the future holds, but it's certainly brighter than the recent past.
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So it passed today - in 2025 when UD plays Colorado and Wake Forest they’ll be playing rosters with 105 scholarships. How many will UD have?
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bluehenbillk wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:01 pm So it passed today - in 2025 when UD plays Colorado and Wake Forest they’ll be playing rosters with 105 scholarships. How many will UD have?
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