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Re: KC Keeler/Andy Hall HOF

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quite an obsession with busts :roll:
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Keeler had more wins at UD than Murray & Nelson. He’s also the only coach to lead a Blue Hens team to a championship on the field, rather than through the polls. Without question, he’ll be honored with an end zone bust after he leaves the game.
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Bluewyn Gold wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:59 am Keeler had more wins at UD than Murray & Nelson. He’s also the only coach to lead a Blue Hens team to a championship on the field, rather than through the polls. Without question, he’ll be honored with an end zone bust after he leaves the game.
William Murray (who was really the first FB HC to put UD on the map) was HC at UD for 7 seasons (62 games or avg. of about 9 per season) with a 49-16-2 record (about 74.63% winning %) including 3-0 in (100%) in conference and one national championship. David Nelson (who took the program to to greater heights) was HC at UD for 15 seasons (128 games total or avg. of about 8.6 games per season) with a 84-42-2 record (about 65.63 % winning percentage )including 26-15 (about 63.41%) in conference , and one national championship. K. C. Keeler was UD HC for 11 seasons (138 games or avg. of about 11.64 games per season) with a 86-52 record (about 62.32 winning percentage) including 49-41 (about 57.44% winning percentage) in conference, and one national championship.
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Re: KC Keeler/Andy Hall HOF

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College Football HOF Stated Criteria;
A coach becomes eligible three full seasons after retirement or immediately following retirement provided he is at least 70 years old. Active coaches become eligible at 75 years of age. He must have been a head football coach for a minimum of 10 years and coached at least 100 games with a .600 winning percentage.

KC currently stands at 263-110-1 (.703)
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No mention of Andy Hall. It will be great to see him back in Del. Stadium. He was a winner.
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77HEN wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:05 pm No mention of Andy Hall. It will be great to see him back in Del. Stadium. He was a winner.
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BlueHenBill wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 1:12 pm
Bluewyn Gold wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:59 am Keeler had more wins at UD than Murray & Nelson. He’s also the only coach to lead a Blue Hens team to a championship on the field, rather than through the polls. Without question, he’ll be honored with an end zone bust after he leaves the game.
William Murray (who was really the first FB HC to put UD on the map) was HC at UD for 7 seasons (62 games or avg. of about 9 per season) with a
49-16-2 record (about 74.63% winning %) including 3-0 in (100%) in conference and one national championship. David Nelson (who tok the program to to greater heights) was HC at UD for 15 seasons (128 games total or avg. of about 8.6 games per season) with a 84-42-2 record (about 65.63 % winning percentage )including 26-15 (about 63.41%) in conference , and one national championship. K. C. Keeler was UD HC for 11 seasons (138 games or avg. of about 11.64 games per season ) with a 86-52 record (about 62.32 winning percenaage) including 49-41 (about 57.44% winning percentage) in conference , and one national championship.
You forgot to add playoff/Bowl/post season records. And awards for Coach of The Year. And, the fact that KC Keeler won another championship as a player…an All-American player.

Also, with all of those numbers, history won’t always look at how the conferences lined up. Damned shame…Keeler was in the toughest conference, by far. Plenty of coaches have a great conference records and then end up face-planting when they face the better teams in the playoffs.

In any case, Delaware Stadium will have one more bust to add when Keeler decides to retire. Bust worthy, indeed. We should all be proud as Hens fans to have had some really great coaches and players come through this school.
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I agree 100% cluck, and tell me how many other schools can claim a coaching line like Delaware can? 4 straight coaches, over 72(?) years, all will be hall of fame coaches!!! That's simply incredible and no school anywhere can match anything like that. We have been so blessed and fortunate guys, what a legacy from coach Murray, coach Nelson, coach Raymond and coach Keeler. I'm 1000% proud to be a f**king blue hen!!!
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Cluck U wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:18 pmYou forgot to add playoff/Bowl/post season records. And awards for Coach of The Year. And, the fact that KC Keeler won another championship as a player…an All-American player.
Very true on all counts as usual.

I THINK William was trying to highlight my point that KC was indeed the winningest UD coach among the three names listed. He did a better job of it than I did.
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Cluck U wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:11 pm
77HEN wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:05 pm No mention of Andy Hall. It will be great to see him back in Del. Stadium. He was a winner.
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I don't know how he played never mind dominated during that playoff run. He was great.
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I'm really excited to see Coach Keeler get the recognition he deserves from UD. He always talks about how much he loves his alma mater, so I am really happy for him.
Also, I'm pumped up to have the Blue Hens joining CUSA. Those Sam-UD games are going to be fun with Keeler v Carty.
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KATatonic wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:43 pm I'm really excited to see Coach Keeler get the recognition he deserves from UD. He always talks about how much he loves his alma mater, so I am really happy for him.
Also, I'm pumped up to have the Blue Hens joining CUSA. Those Sam-UD games are going to be fun with Keeler v Carty.
There is a strong case to made for making UDs first CUSA game against SHSU /KC, but with neither of us having natural rivals in conference, I’d like to see the UD / SHSU be held annually on rivalry weekend.
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KATatonic wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:43 pm I'm really excited to see Coach Keeler get the recognition he deserves from UD. He always talks about how much he loves his alma mater, so I am really happy for him.
Also, I'm pumped up to have the Blue Hens joining CUSA. Those Sam-UD games are going to be fun with Keeler v Carty.
Isn’t Keeler’s contract up in 2026? We might only get two games in this new rivalry.

Heck, maybe UD can provide some sort of bonus money for Keeler’s new Sammy contract if the Tub sells out when the Kats come to town. :lol:
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Cluck U wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:25 am
KATatonic wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:43 pm I'm really excited to see Coach Keeler get the recognition he deserves from UD. He always talks about how much he loves his alma mater, so I am really happy for him.
Also, I'm pumped up to have the Blue Hens joining CUSA. Those Sam-UD games are going to be fun with Keeler v Carty.
Isn’t Keeler’s contract up in 2026? We might only get two games in this new rivalry.

Heck, maybe UD can provide some sort of bonus money for Keeler’s new Sammy contract if the Tub sells out when the Kats come to town. :lol:
We need every dollar we can get, so yeah, go for it!!
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Re: KC Keeler/Andy Hall HOF

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Cluck U wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:18 pm
BlueHenBill wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 1:12 pm
Bluewyn Gold wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:59 am Keeler had more wins at UD than Murray & Nelson. He’s also the only coach to lead a Blue Hens team to a championship on the field, rather than through the polls. Without question, he’ll be honored with an end zone bust after he leaves the game.
William Murray (who was really the first FB HC to put UD on the map) was HC at UD for 7 seasons (62 games or avg. of about 9 per season) with a
49-16-2 record (about 74.63% winning %) including 3-0 in (100%) in conference and one national championship. David Nelson (who took the program to to greater heights) was HC at UD for 15 seasons (128 games total or avg. of about 8.6 games per season) with a 84-42-2 record (about 65.63 % winning percentage )including 26-15 (about 63.41%) in conference, and one national championship. K. C. Keeler was UD HC for 11 seasons (138 games or avg. of about 11.64 games per season ) with a 86-52 record (about 62.32 winning percentage) including 49-41 (about 57.44% winning percentage) in conference , and one national championship.
You forgot to add playoff/Bowl/post season records. And awards for Coach of The Year. And, the fact that KC Keeler won another championship as a player…an All-American player.

Also, with all of those numbers, history won’t always look at how the conferences lined up. Damned shame…Keeler was in the toughest conference, by far. Plenty of coaches have a great conference records and then end up face-planting when they face the better teams in the playoffs.

In any case, Delaware Stadium will have one more bust to add when Keeler decides to retire. Bust worthy, indeed. We should all be proud as Hens fans to have had some really great coaches and players come through this school.
Cluck U, Though I did not separately break them out I believe that playoff/bowl games are included in my post of the overall records of each of the three HC's. My post was in response to Bluewyn Gold's post which was about the records of those 3 UD HCs. Accordingly, I did not include awards won or accomplishments as a player. I was not making any argument that Keeler doesn't belong in the UD Athletics HOF. I was responding to Bluewyn Gold's overly simplistic comparison of the number of wins by each of the 3 HCs when UD teams coached by Murray & Nelson played significantly fewer games on average than those coached by Keeler and alos the variation in the number of seasons coached at UD by thsoe three HCs. To me, the winning percentages overall and in conference of each HC are the more valid comparisons. Of course it is virtually impossible to adjust for different eras and potentially different levels of the difficulty of the opponents faced.
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