Poll (Nuance Aplenty): Did the 2023 season represent progress?

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Poll (Nuance Aplenty): Did the 2023 season represent progress?

--Yes, of course. Nine wins! Back-to-back playoffs for first time in 19 seasons! Home playoff win! Lots of points scored with exciting players. This is just the beginning.
39
46%
--Yes, but only because UD made the FBS announcement this year, not because of anything on the field.
2
2%
--Meh. Everyone could have predicted this exact record in August. Thanks to a dreadful schedule, the Hens played 13 games and we still have no idea if they are anything above average.
25
30%
--No, but I'm excited about moving up to FBS and some of the young players look promising.
5
6%
--No, of course not. The Hens lost to the best teams they played by 56-, 28- and 30-point margins and finished exactly where they did a year ago in the playoffs. And that's after needing an opponent QB injury to beat a Patriot League team at home. It ain't pretty, and it sure ain't progress.
11
13%
--N/A. Since switching schools is so easy for players now, progress is not applicable anymore. Everyone starts at 0 every year and you go from there, for better or worse.
2
2%
 
Total votes: 84

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udsb97 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:02 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:55 am
udsb97 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:32 am The Blue Hens are going absolutely nowhere in the FBS until Ryan hires a talented OC and gives him a relatively free rein .

That is a major sticking point going forward.
OC? Sure, I can get on board with that. Someone to tell him hey let’s run here or no, don’t call that dumb play in the red zone. Free rein? The guy’s offense just put up 32 PPG even with the Penn State dud, and literally is here because of the job he did coordinating offenses at both Sammy and UNH.
"As part of its eventual upward climb, Delaware may also play next season with an offensive coordinator – perhaps one with Blue Hens ties – after head coach Ryan Carty has also been chief play-caller and orchestrator the last two years." KT, News Journal 12/4

What we need is for one of our analytical all stars on here to give us some numbers on the percentage of FBS teams that don't have an OC. It will be extremely small is my guess.

Even if we score those 32 points we still lose 4 ball games. Penn State 63 , Elon 33 Nova 35 , Montana 49

Oh course we only managed to average 15 against them .
Read the article yesterday, HZ. Hence why I said I can get on board with an OC…

In fact I’d be surprised if we don’t have one.

Just disagreeing with the free rein part. Just because you have an OC doesn’t mean they call the plays.
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Hmmmm I'd say, no, no progress was made.

You should have won 9 games against that schedule. You had no signature wins (Navy last season) and you got your butts beat down again in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

And I think you still are not sure who your QB is? Having 3 "solid" ones is not as good as having 1 good, dependable one.

These are not facts. Just my jackass opinion. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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udsb97 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:02 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:55 am
udsb97 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:32 am The Blue Hens are going absolutely nowhere in the FBS until Ryan hires a talented OC and gives him a relatively free rein .

That is a major sticking point going forward.
OC? Sure, I can get on board with that. Someone to tell him hey let’s run here or no, don’t call that dumb play in the red zone. Free rein? The guy’s offense just put up 32 PPG even with the Penn State dud, and literally is here because of the job he did coordinating offenses at both Sammy and UNH.
"As part of its eventual upward climb, Delaware may also play next season with an offensive coordinator – perhaps one with Blue Hens ties – after head coach Ryan Carty has also been chief play-caller and orchestrator the last two years." KT, News Journal 12/4

What we need is for one of our analytical all stars on here to give us some numbers on the percentage of FBS teams that don't have an OC. It will be extremely small is my guess.

Even if we score those 32 points we still lose 4 ball games. Penn State 63 , Elon 33 Nova 35 , Montana 49

Oh course we only managed to average 15 against them .
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udsb97 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:02 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:55 am
udsb97 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:32 am The Blue Hens are going absolutely nowhere in the FBS until Ryan hires a talented OC and gives him a relatively free rein .

That is a major sticking point going forward.
OC? Sure, I can get on board with that. Someone to tell him hey let’s run here or no, don’t call that dumb play in the red zone. Free rein? The guy’s offense just put up 32 PPG even with the Penn State dud, and literally is here because of the job he did coordinating offenses at both Sammy and UNH.
Even if we score those 32 points we still lose 4 ball games. Penn State 63 , Elon 33 Nova 35 , Montana 49

Oh course we only managed to average 15 against them .
Well, that isn't necessarily true.

If we held the ball and got conversions for more first downs and more points, the opponent would not have the same amount of time and opportunities to score a similar amount of points.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS

Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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Cluck U wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:50 pm
udsb97 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:02 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:55 am

OC? Sure, I can get on board with that. Someone to tell him hey let’s run here or no, don’t call that dumb play in the red zone. Free rein? The guy’s offense just put up 32 PPG even with the Penn State dud, and literally is here because of the job he did coordinating offenses at both Sammy and UNH.
Even if we score those 32 points we still lose 4 ball games. Penn State 63 , Elon 33 Nova 35 , Montana 49

Oh course we only managed to average 15 against them .
Well, that isn't necessarily true.

If we held the ball and got conversions for more first downs and more points, the opponent would not have the same amount of time and opportunities to score a similar amount of points.
Steely Dan for OC!
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Post by InvestedHenFan »

2022 and 2023 combined represented progress compared to the product delivered by Brock and Rocco- in 23, lost 3 of last 5 and in 2022 lost 4 of last 6

4-7 down the stretch- Carty did ok- wishing him a lot of success in the future-good coach with room to grow
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I like the non-nuanced poll better. Yes I believe the program has made progress. Carty has brought a more exciting brand of football to UD. He has room to grow. However as part of that growth he needs to take ownership of the team as a whole- become the CEO as people on this board would say and show he can handle that. At this point I get the feeling the program is almost divided between an offense and defense- Carty has control of the offense and Rojas has control of the defense. Of late it seems as though special teams are in no-man's land. Part of Carty's growth will be taking control of the program as a whole by geting an OC and a new DC. It must be recognized that the team fell down against better teams in the CAA and FCS showing that they were not one of top teams in the CAA much less FCS football as a whole. That's the water that our cupcake schedule muddied. At best they were in the top 25 (near the bottom) but never #5. While I recognize the future is FBS and the University has finally read the tea leaves to that effect, this program is not ready for FBS right now. Kevin Tresolini's article captures much of what I believe about UD football at this point. However that ship has sailed. Best of luck to the program in the future. It is going to be a tough go certainly for the near term.
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From Dan:

https://twitter.com/DanSteenkamer/statu ... 5081879559

“Del endured injuries at quarterback (to both starters), running back, wide receiver, and guard down the stretch of the season and still finished in #FCS top 25 in passing offense (253 YPG) & total offense (413.2 YPG).”
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Passing Offense- # 21 yet none of the 20 teams ahead of the Hens even made the playoffs.
Total Offense- #22 yet behind Villanova, NDSU & SDSU.

Not in the top 50 in the FCS in :

3rd down conversion %
4th down conversion %

Not sure what any of this means other then the obvious inability to move the chains on 3rd and forth down consistently.
I would think that reflects somewhat on the play caller.
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