NIL- Blue Hen Collective

[Cluck U]

Wait…there is a university organization set up to provide money for their STEM students to make money off their NILs?

Who knew?

Good to hear the school…university…puts the student part of at the forefront of their focus on education.


Silly argument. But, on the other hand, 10 years ago virtually no one thought non-professional student-athletes would be paid gobs and gobs of money to…checks notes…play a sport.

Up next: high school kids getting paid to play. It’s coming.

Priorities.

[Bluewyn Gold]

Wait…there is a university organization set up to provide money for their STEM students to make money off their NILs?

Of course not, but that's precisely the point. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.

I think you'd agree that universities, both public, non-public, and quasi-publics like UD, are multi-million or billion-dollar, profit-driven businesses first and foremost. Maybe in an ideal world that's not how we'd LIKE them to operate. Maybe that's not the public face they PREFER to exhibit. But, ultimately, the bottom line is exactly and always where their priorities lie.

UD supports the creation of the Collective because they believe it improves the chances of competing in the marketplace for the best athletes, which should lead to wins, which should lead to increased community support, which should lead to increased revenue for the school.

If a similar racket existed for STEM students, universities across the country would be all over it. Though far different and way more limited in scope, maybe the closest example I can think of would be universities profiting from the promotion of and investments in student research and business start-ups.

Maybe we'll see the day when HS students get paid to play. I wouldn't doubt it.

[Cluck U]

Always reasonable.

A similar racket for STEM students doesn’t exit…YET.

I am an optimist.

And yup…UD is a (non-profit ) business.

We will be paying our athletes. Heck, they are going to need the extra money. UD just announced a 5% tuition increase…and CBS News, on Nov. 30, 2023, reported the typical American household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain the same standard of living they enjoyed in January 2021.

[Hens79]

Always reasonable.

A similar racket for STEM students doesn’t exit…YET.

I am an optimist.

And yup…UD is a (non-profit ) business.

We will be paying our athletes. Heck, they are going to need the extra money. UD just announced a 5% tuition increase…and CBS News, on Nov. 30, 2023, reported the typical American household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain the same standard of living they enjoyed in January 2021.

Good thing the economy is so good and wages have outstripped the falling inflation these last almost 3 years. With stock markets at record highs, investment and retirement accounts have never been higher. Lots of money to go around, including for athletic fund raising and even STEM scholarships.

[BlueHenBill]

Was told villanova has 2.5M to distribute annually to scholarship athletes.

In all probability exclusively or mostly for Men's Basketball players

[Caribbean Hen]

Always reasonable.

A similar racket for STEM students doesn’t exit…YET.

I am an optimist.

And yup…UD is a (non-profit ) business.

We will be paying our athletes. Heck, they are going to need the extra money. UD just announced a 5% tuition increase…and CBS News, on Nov. 30, 2023, reported the typical American household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain the same standard of living they enjoyed in January 2021.

Good thing the economy is so good and wages have outstripped the falling inflation these last almost 3 years. With stock markets at record highs, investment and retirement accounts have never been higher. Lots of money to go around, including for athletic fund raising and even STEM scholarships.

79

Despite being grumpy, I know you’re probably not old enough to have gotten that invitation to Jekyll Island in 1910.

Study up !

[Tribe4SF]

So does UD have a collective at this point?

Never mind. I found it. The school is partnered with SANIL. I've found their process to be a bit confusing and not being run by UD boosters or fans is a weakness to me.

[Tribe4SF]

If you want to stay up on national issues related to NIL, transfer portal and NCAA litigation follow this guy.

https://twitter.com/WinterSportsLaw

[Udforever1]

So does UD have a collective at this point?

Never mind. I found it. The school is partnered with SANIL. I've found their process to be a bit confusing and not being run by UD boosters or fans is a weakness to me.

https://bluehencollective.com/

[Cluck U]

If you want to stay up on national issues related to NIL, transfer portal and NCAA litigation follow this guy.

https://twitter.com/WinterSportsLaw

Thanks for the link, Tribe.

Interesting that the IU coach wore a player’s NIL sweatshirt during a game…and the sales skyrocketed. <——- All legal. Cool coach…but is she going to wear each team member’s gear?

Can anyone imagine MI, or Chrissi, wearing t-shirts, hats, earrings, whatever with the players’ images on them? Heck, will the coaches be able to adorn themselves with their own images to make extra money during games?

[Cluck U]

Wonder if any NIL sales of shirts for individual athletes will take away income from UD’s own sale of University of Delaware gear? Seriously, if you are a student or fan, and you want a jersey, do you purchase a UD licensed shirt or do you purchase a shirt that has your favorite player (and fellow student)?

People have only so much money to spend on shirts and hats, so there has to be an impact. That is why all of these universities are trying to keep the NIL stuff in-house…they want a piece of the action and some measure of control.

Toss in that UD seems to be struggling with their budget and want everyone else to pay for things (NIL, new facilities, etc.). They don’t seem to be receiving the benefits of the booming economy. Great timing…just as we move up (and who doesn’t like donating the extra $5 million due to the silly delay). Good times, good times.

And, one has to love the fact that UD is already publicly saying that they will pass any Newark student head tax (which got passed by City Council on Monday, but still has to be approved by the State) on to their students.

Fun times ahead.

[slobberknocker]

And the University should pass along to students an increased fee to allow them to attend college sports with consistent national tv exposure. They will certainly show up if a chance to be on national television so that has a cost. Pass it on like others do. Let’s get serious as to whom this move up benefits ; certainly not the fans; it is the University and it’s image and the increased self importance of our student body.. Stop always asking for private contributions to support all major sports related capital projects, and let the students and university contribute significantly as they are the beneficiaries!!

[Bluewyn Gold]

An informative piece on how a few schools are using apparel to fund NIL. Interestingly, UD does have some products with Homefield Apparel.

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/p/nil-col ... might-help

[Hens79]

And the University should pass along to students an increased fee to allow them to attend college sports with consistent national tv exposure. They will certainly show up if a chance to be on national television so that has a cost. Pass it on like others do. Let’s get serious as to whom this move up benefits ; certainly not the fans; it is the University and it’s image and the increased self importance of our student body.. Stop always asking for private contributions to support all major sports related capital projects, and let the students and university contribute significantly as they are the beneficiaries!!

Got the right answer but not really the right reason. For sure, students should have some kind of “athletic fee” like lots and lots of schools do including JMU who UD is trying to duplicate. But the move up certainly benefits everyone not just students and UD’s image including regular fans who will no long have to sit through the CAA mess. I am not quite sure why a few are suggesting fans get nothing out of this.

Anyway, it could be a bad deal if UD delays the football upgrade while crying poor. They used the Great Recession and stock market crash of 2008 as a reason not to follow through on all those concept plans at the time. But the economy is booming today by just about every metric despite some biased naysayers. This crying poor rings very, very hollow.

UD has to get the project announced, come up with the money internally and externally and get it going. Period.

[Bluewyn Gold]

Agreed, Mr. 79. There is no turning back now that the FBS announcement’s been made.

Crying poor is a meaningless task when you’ve got the type of investment portfolio and endowment UD is carrying.