One bad game or a red flag going forward?

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mainejeff wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:29 pm As Cluck U pointed out to me...UD has a huge endowment ($1.78 billion as of 2022....must be near $2 billion now?). Have some of those old white dudes that run your show start opening up their wallets! It's great to fill a stadium with 20K...but at some point some of those wealthy alums need to stop stashing their cash and start writing checks!
Nice job, mj…you managed to be racist and ageist in one post. Oh, and you threw in some idea about needed redistribution of wealth. :lol:

UD is doing just fine…we have highly respected academics at our university, and our athletic teams are moving up and leaving Maine and the CAA behind.

If you ever decide to visit, check out our STAR Campus. Facisnating stuff going on there…and that is where the important big investment is happening.
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Not sure what I saw Saturday. I'm not ready to jump to the dark side. Perhaps Richmond's bi-week was a factor. What I saw that was problematic was a leaky defense that got exploited. Richmond must have watched the Monmouth game films and seen UD's weakness in the pass defense that could easily be exploited. Yes, UD abandoned the run. Why? However the biggest problem is the defense. That damn 3-3-5. That must change or the DC needs to change. On a positive note the win against Maine did take on more luster after Maine beat Nova. Albany may be reverting to form losing to Elon. Both teams with losing records. Loss of Puffenberger loss is likely a big factor. Will be interesting to see who starts at QB Saturday for UD.
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exact same stinkers have been a pattern against the better teams (CAA and playoffs) every year for quite awhile now. ... all that needs to be said, a pattern.
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I was hoping we would run the table for the athletes that stuck around for their final year of eligibility during a transition season. Perhaps winning out may help heal the wound from the game this past weekend.

I think some of these kids wanted to "win the CAA" despite not being able to earn the official title.

Looking at remaining schedules, Richmond has the easiest path to winning the CAA and quite frankly, I do not believe they are the best team.
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Caldwell Chicken wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:08 am I was hoping we would run the table for the athletes that stuck around for their final year of eligibility during a transition season. Perhaps winning out may help heal the wound from the game this past weekend.

I think some of these kids wanted to "win the CAA" despite not being able to earn the official title.

Looking at remaining schedules, Richmond has the easiest path to winning the CAA and quite frankly, I do not believe they are the best team.
Good organizations WIN the games they are supposed to WIN, Hens haven't been and aren't there yet. Pretty sure there are at least 3-4 teams in CUSA better than Richmond so if 7-4 record is good enough, get used to it.
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I don't regret posting my thoughts Sunday on the problem I view with our athletic affairs. Our academics are a thing to be proud of!! I won't expand further, but I actually noticed that a few of our regular contributors have been silent. I do understand that many of y'all are BHTC members which precludes comments that may harm your relationship with the UD coaches whom you converse with regularly in the halls of the Bob. If I resided in Newark I might consider "limiting" my concerns with our lack of success. Be that as it may- I would be pleased if a few of my pmers(is their such a word?) sent me their private feelings on this issue.

Albany should be another cupcake in our menu of CAA desserts. Don't expect anything new to be gleaned next Saturday.

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tenn hen wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:34 am I don't regret posting my thoughts Sunday on the problem I view with our athletic affairs. Our academics are a thing to be proud of!! I won't expand further, but I actually noticed that a few of our regular contributors have been silent. I do understand that many of y'all are BHTC members which precludes comments that may harm your relationship with the UD coaches whom you converse with regularly in the halls of the Bob. If I resided in Newark I might consider "limiting" my concerns with our lack of success. Be that as it may- I would be pleased if a few of my pmers(is their such a word?) sent me their private feelings on this issue.

Albany should be another cupcake in our menu of CAA desserts. Don't expect anything new to be gleaned next Saturday.

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For all of the gloomers…if we finish 10-1, it would still be a nice way to say goodbye to FCS (and historically, that record would be far better than the vast majority of our seasons).

Heck, even 9-2 is still Hall of Fame bound over the long run. :D

FWIW, there are only 10 FBS teams that haven't lost.

Oregon
Penn State
Miami
BYU
Iowa
Indiana
Pitt
Army
Navy
Liberty

Anyone betting those teams will go undefeated? Only one pro team (Chiefs) undefeated at this point (and only one pro team in the history of the NFL has finished the season undefeated). And only 2 FCS teams (Montana State and Dartmouth) are undefeated.

Rarely does a team go undefeated.

One other point…Carty is balancing the roster, even with the injuries, to keep some players eligible for next year. It will be very interesting to see the combinations he throws out for our last 4 games.
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hensfan40yrs wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:28 am
Caldwell Chicken wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:08 am I was hoping we would run the table for the athletes that stuck around for their final year of eligibility during a transition season. Perhaps winning out may help heal the wound from the game this past weekend.

I think some of these kids wanted to "win the CAA" despite not being able to earn the official title.

Looking at remaining schedules, Richmond has the easiest path to winning the CAA and quite frankly, I do not believe they are the best team.
Good organizations WIN the games they are supposed to WIN, Hens haven't been and aren't there yet. Pretty sure there are at least 3-4 teams in CUSA better than Richmond so if 7-4 record is good enough, get used to it.
I don’t disagree with you that it’s fair to question if Carty can win a big game, but a bit confused by this post. Not trying to be snarky at all, but if we went 7-4 (with FBS I assume you’re saying 8-4 or 7-5) in our first say two FBS seasons I’ll be thrilled.
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I dont think 7-4 in FBS is attainable right now when the Hens cant sweep the "watered down CAA" as its been called and is winning 7 games and being bowl eligible is the goal now?
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We are all in a foul mood about that loss, me included.

10-1 is still attainable, and no matter what, a win over Villanova would set the stage for CUSA just fine.

I think the team, especially the coaches, will learn from this. Kudos to UR for being better prepared.
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Cluck U wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:58 am For all of the gloomers…if we finish 10-1, it would still be a nice way to say goodbye to FCS (and historically, that record would be far better than the vast majority of our seasons).

Heck, even 9-2 is still Hall of Fame bound over the long run. :D

FWIW, there are only 10 FBS teams that haven't lost.

Oregon
Penn State
Miami
BYU
Iowa
Indiana
Pitt
Army
Navy
Liberty

Anyone betting those teams will go undefeated? Only one pro team (Chiefs) undefeated at this point (and only one pro team in the history of the NFL has finished the season undefeated). And only 2 FCS teams (Montana State and Dartmouth) are undefeated.

Rarely does a team go undefeated.

One other point…Carty is balancing the roster, even with the injuries, to keep some players eligible for next year. It will be very interesting to see the combinations he throws out for our last 4 games.

Yes, I’m aware that most teams don’t go undefeated, but we usually lose the games to teams that are considered our peers or maybe even a little better than us in the CAA. We haven’t been really pulling off any of those bigger wins since Cardi got here we’re winning against the lower cupcakes.
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BlueandGold05 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:52 pm
Cluck U wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:58 am For all of the gloomers…if we finish 10-1, it would still be a nice way to say goodbye to FCS (and historically, that record would be far better than the vast majority of our seasons).

Heck, even 9-2 is still Hall of Fame bound over the long run. :D

FWIW, there are only 10 FBS teams that haven't lost.

Oregon
Penn State
Miami
BYU
Iowa
Indiana
Pitt
Army
Navy
Liberty

Anyone betting those teams will go undefeated? Only one pro team (Chiefs) undefeated at this point (and only one pro team in the history of the NFL has finished the season undefeated). And only 2 FCS teams (Montana State and Dartmouth) are undefeated.

Rarely does a team go undefeated.

One other point…Carty is balancing the roster, even with the injuries, to keep some players eligible for next year. It will be very interesting to see the combinations he throws out for our last 4 games.

Yes, I’m aware that most teams don’t go undefeated, but we usually lose the games to teams that are considered our peers or maybe even a little better than us in the CAA. We haven’t been really pulling off any of those bigger wins since Cardi got here we’re winning against the lower cupcakes.
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No question. The Blue Hens have been the best of the rest for some years now but not in the top team group. One loss has left a bad taste in our mouthes. Let’s see what personnel make it to the field this Saturday and whether they can put up some result.
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BlueandGold05 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:52 pm
Yes, I’m aware that most teams don’t go undefeated, but we usually lose the games to teams that are considered our peers or maybe even a little better than us in the CAA. We haven’t been really pulling off any of those bigger wins since Cardi got here we’re winning against the lower cupcakes.
By the way, welcome to the board. :D Good to have more people posting.

Quality wins during the Carty era:

2022
Navy
Rhode Island
Towson
Monmouth (don't laugh, they would have been .500 both in and out of conference with a win)
St. Francis (only losses were to Richmond, FBS Akron and UD)

2023
UNH
Towson
Campbell
Laffy
Duquesne also won their conference.

2024
Monmouth
Maine - over .500 and they slaughtered nova

We still have:
Albany
Rhode Island (currently 3-0 and 6-1)
Campbell
nova (2-1, 5-2)

So, we could pick up 2 more quality wins.

Yeah, I know...no outstanding win, but several quality wins. People want to dismiss the win against Laffy, but that was a quality win. Those Leopards only lost to FBS Duke and a Colgate team that finished on a 6-1 tear. We nipped them, but we won. Laffy also beat a good, ranked Holy Cross team that should have made the playoffs. That was a crime...Holy Cross only lost to Laffy (in a 35-38 dogfight), FBS Army (17-14), a ranked Harvard team, and to FBS Boston College (31-28).

Anyway, we haven't beaten a very good team, yet. Hopefully, we can finish 10-1 and go out of FCS on a good note.
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